DISTRICT # 3 BOARD MEETING MINUTES -
June 12, 2003 VTEMS District #3 Board MeetingIn Attendance:
Jessica Gagne SMRS (R)
Jessi Valentine SMRS (A)
Jason Ziter EJPD, Training Coordinator
Deanna Nelson Essex (R)
Jason Marshall Charlotte (V)
Christian Campbell, Charlotte (R)
Lisa Whittemore FACT (R)
Jim Laskarzewski VTANG (R)
Matt Windish UVM (A)
Tanya Tersillo UVM (V)
Chris Putnam Hinesburg (R)
Chris McCarthy Williston Rescue, Treasurer
Scott Jacobs Williston Rescue (R)
Scott Flieger Colchester (A)
Sean Fitzgerald Milton (A)
Darren Adams Milton (R)
Bill McNamara BFD (A)
Mike Richard BFD (R)
Lee Jones Richmond/IBM (R)
Debbie Baron Grand Isle (R)
Gilbert Helkin FAHCED (R)
Tara Pacy FAHC-ED (V)
Pat Malone IREMS/UVM (V)
Keith Robinson SMRS/IREMS (V)
Peter Soons SMRS (V)
Correction to 5/03 Minutes:
Fall EMT-I class to start in November not September as previously recorded.
Treasurer’s Report:
Classes $1,713.58
Dues $2,646.79
Equipment 8,070.31
Total: 12,430
Lynch Act. $3, 244.31
District bills mailed out last week.
Medical Direction:
-DNR forms at the print shop. All Level 3, VNA, and Hospice will begin to use the standard forms. All other forms will require EMS to check with medical direction to check validity.Discussion about EMS in District #3
– Uphold, Pacy, Weimersheimer, Goss, EMS personnel in attendance- summary points below:Paramedicine-
Would it b
e helpful in D#3?Is it possible to tailor the program to specific needs vs accepting as a whole – not spending time training on what is not needed, skills that are used are easier to maintain.
Use of drugs for pain control with the long transport times
/distances? Pt. comfort and care should be important. Referral to JEMS 7/03 article.Ruth Uphold: Past protocols have proven outcomes it is hard to begin pilot programs, training and certification levels are all standardized on the state level.
Jackie Go
ss: NREMT-I level has most of the skills that we were discussing it used to be the old paramedic program 400-500 hours vs. ~150 hours for the new EMT-I.Questions about District 6’s use of having paramedics certified at state certification level, but limit
ed by medical direction in their scope of practice- can we look at that structure?It is hard to do D#3 studies (randomized and controlled) with a mostly volunteer service/personnel base and with the smaller # of patients fitting criteria.
Centrally ba
sed paramedicine? Modeled after Rutland Regional’s. Looking at frequency of skills used vs training to upkeep skills.Benefits of doing the care on scene vs waiting until at the hospital. Study is being done in Ontario- no data has been published yet.
Looking at potential problems with the new EMT-I curriculum (hours required, cost, skill maintenance) what does this say about the paramedic level?.
Ruth: Change is about looking forward. Achilles heel is airway management BVM is difficult and is second
only as assessment in the most important skill. Intubation didn’t work (the amount of time taken to learn and maintain the skill vs amt. of time used). Combitube has had positive results. We need to look at the cost, time and requirements for volunteers.Some paid personnel who work EMS as career are looking for more training and expansion of skills- if we can’t have everyone as a paramedic should we go for the lowest denominator?
Training and Communication:
Can the hospital be a resource for train
ing? There are not a lot of opportunities now offered. Greater cooperation between the hospital and pre-hospital staff in many departments in the hospital is wanted by many.Time to practice skills can be scheduled through the radio room for all skill l
evels. There may be some difficulties around current B/I classes. A big piece of the new EMT-I curriculum will be time in hospital.QA shows what we do now. This is the first place to start in improving patient care.
How to get feedback from RNs/MDs a
t the hospital to the pre-hospital crews? Crew captains job or hospitals job to connect- where is the balance and what opportunities are out there? What about follow-up for the first responder services?What about a liaison such as Rutland and CVH have hired to work on training/follow-up/ and quality assurances? Is there a grant department which could help write a grant to help fund a liaison? Clinical Research, but it’s money is frozen. Can we apply fo
r a grant on quality improvement? Community Health Improvement office may be able to find someone to help. Keith/Pat- IREMS staff willing to help write a grant, but we still may need a source of funding to get the position started.What about the data collection project on the state level – Unclear as to where that process is. Some efforts of state staff have been refocused with bioterrism and SARS.
Airway:
Forceps in choking? Hospital would like to see more data. Discussion about protocols and leader
ship needing to come from the hospital and from the state. Which is leading the changes and who is in need of communicating these changes to the pre-hospital community?Anesthesiologists seem to be happy with the current combitube- there is not much data
yet. Can we do both intubations and combitube? Why one or the other? Maximum benefit found from hospital on using the combitube.Is there a way to look at the data of patient’s that we have a chance with. Most of the paramedicine class is assessment. Can the ED put more faith in our assessments? More feedback from our reports?
FAHC-ER- Radio Room report- Gil, Kirsten
Please move ambulances as soon as patient is offloaded. This will create a safer place for transport patients leaving the hospital.
Valet parking area is closed to ambulances.
Phone updates have been fantastic- working very well-
MCI:
Keith proposed that a MCI trailer purchased with equipment ( list handed out) be applied for in a full-matching grant. Milton also applied for one under a grant. BFD has begun the process of putting together a trailer. They already have the funding. The trailer would be available for district MCI use. The transport to MCIs is still to be worked out. It is a 6x12 foot trailer with most of the supplies on Keith’s list. We should look into doing both trailers. Questions brought up about district trailer include: where would it be? who maintains? how many do we need? Is the district an approved entity for the grant? Decision made to write in the grant that it is for the district. St. Michael’s may write an additional grant for a trailer.
Policies and Procedures- Lee: none
Logistics-Lee: A new form to track out of service times was passed out-
UPDATED copy posted on D#3 webpage
Heavy rescue/Fire: none
Training:
First Responder course is testing 6/17- help appreciated contact Becca for details.
Modules 1&2 (Becca) proposed and accepted- to begin in August. Updated syllabus to be posted on webpage.
Greg/Pat EMT-I class pre-proposal there will be a formal proposal in the fall. Early November start date. There was an extensive discussion of the new course including criteria for entering the class- solid EMT-Bs to have opportunity to take- will this be a standard score on NREMT-B or an entrance exam? Other requirements? Objective vs. subjective decisions. Suggestions included: service time? Number of calls? Requirement for certain time after EMT-B that is needed before I class? Only one course to be offered this fall. Our curriculum in D#3 is the same as the rest of the state, but we are the first district doing it. Our resources may make our class look very different from other places in the state. After much discussion about how 25 spaces for the first class were to be assigned the instructors will work towards a decision from suggestions made (time, personnel currently certified, sharing wealth, transport times, service size).
Will there be a summer
’04 EMT-I class? This discussion was placed on hold.EMT-B classes for the fall, transition courses for EMT-I- Pat: proposals tabled due to late hour- on agenda for next meeting. For pre-planning clinicals ~10 hours, 38 hours of class time, $250. Will be 2 levels of EMT-I in state
Old business: none
New business:
Lee- Licensing committee report of Charlotte out of service. Summary of discussion: new leadership, new funding, new personnel, running at state minimum staffing, District services willing to support and help if can- See attached for letter from CVRS.
Lee- Requirements for course participants: EMT-B summer class some people not meet requirement of district of GED/H.S. diploma to complete course. If the EMT-B course is taken outside the district the district needs to recognize. Becca, Pat, and Lee to discuss what this means for modules courses?
Softball is beginning come play! See Jason Z. for team information!
Debbie Baron received plaque thanking her for her services as past district board chairperson.
Motion to close meeting: seconded/approved
Submitted 6/22/03 R. Webb
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